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10/29/2003 23:16
Sean 
10/29/2003 23:16
Sean 
NA

jim h,
Do you know that the insurance companies won't pay for NA? Why wouldn't they pay? The only reason they wouldn't, would be that their research tells them that they would have to pay more in the long run for NA than for surgery. All they care about are costs. If NA is covered by medicaid, I would think it would be covered by insurance.

10/30/2003 23:29
John

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10/30/2003 23:29
John

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DC &NA availability in OZ

I read with interest the trouble finding doctors willing to look at something which would benefit the patient, but perhaps not their pocket! I have experienced the same difficulty with health funds in OZ regarding NA done in an overseas country, or anywhere for that matter. I am running out of money and years to get more NA treatment, which really has worked for me on both hands on two separate visits to Paris. But how many holidays can one afford in Paris? On the last one I had my wallet stolen with all my cash for the Dr and accommodation!! a violent place it seems. My wish is that some generous doctor from OZ would go to Paris in my stead and have the training in NA. It would be a very useful and generous act. I do have relies in the UK, has anyone had training in that country?

10/30/2003 23:31
toM

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10/30/2003 23:31
toM

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vacation here or there

Good lord Sean/Gary, I'd hoped with NA available now you'd have been reassigned to hound some other message board.

Get over it. NA is here, will flourish, and not go away. The hand surgery industry, whether you like it or not, will have no choice but to accept it. So will the insurance companies.

10/30/2003 23:23
Joe 
10/30/2003 23:23
Joe 
vacation here or there

Yipeeee! NA available in the USA! Go to
www.handcenter.org/newfile16.htm

10/30/2003 23:19
jim h

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10/30/2003 23:19
jim h

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Repeat Post

Sean,
Well, maybe insurance companies will pay. I don't how to find out for sure. I once called the company's "customer service" number and asked if a particular procedure (not NA) would be covered. The reply was, essentially, "Well, maybe. Try submitting it and find out." There did not seem any way to get a real advance comittment. And if they do pay, will they pay the entire $700?


10/30/2003 23:10
JERRY 
10/30/2003 23:10
JERRY 
Repeat Post



SEAN-FYI:

My current request for an update regarding previous procedures and/or changes in conditions has so far produced 29 procedural responses.

13 SURGERIES: 3 Good, 2 Fair, 5 Bad, 3 Awful

Most reported post surgical trauma affecting extremities.

16 APO (NEEDLE): 14 GOOD, 2 FAIR (some regression)

NO report of resultant trauma or damage.

We require much more input to get this type of message to the attention of those that are resisting Aponevrotomy; the only alternative treatment now available to us.

PLEASE HELP BY SUBMITTING INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR CONDITION TO ME VIA E-MAIL.

10/30/2003 23:21
NorCal NA

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10/30/2003 23:21
NorCal NA

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Follow-up with Hand Surgeon

I visited my hand surgeon yesterday following treatment for NA in Paris 2 weeks ago for both hands. While his assistant and his NP were very impressed, all he said was "Let's wait and see what it looks like in 6 months..."

All in all, I'd still rather return to Paris (or Austria, or Italy, or whereever) than go through another operation.


10/30/2003 23:57
Randy H.

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10/30/2003 23:57
Randy H.

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Game Over

The only argument available to those still questioning NA as the procedure of choice is the yet unproven notion that reoccurrence occurs more quickly and/or at higher rate. Playing Devil's advocate for a moment, let's suppose reoccurrence with NA is at TWICE the normal rate of surgery. How many surgeons, expertly trained in both procedures and who put the best interest of their patients first, would reach directly for the knife before trying NA? And the insurance companies. How many of them would they rather pay for Surgery at $5,000 - $7,000 (with includes months of physical therapy), Vs NA at $700? Game Over.

Sean: Thanks for playing. (Though I resist using your name. It only encourages you)

10/30/2003 23:10
Charlieb

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10/30/2003 23:10
Charlieb

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NorCal

I live in Northern California too. My hand Dr. is in Redding. He would only consider an operation for my DC. I am off to Florida soon. No more will I go to inflexible hand docs.

10/30/2003 23:57
Charlie 
10/30/2003 23:57
Charlie 
NA in Florida

Well, I am all set. I just made an appointment with Dr. Eaton for an NA on January 19. Off to Jupitor I go. I am really looking forword to meeting Dr. Eaton. I have all you in this forum to thank. Thank you.

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