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05/02/2005 23:22
Marilynnot registered
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exercises
Rich, czn you describe these exercises? would these help to stave off progression of DC?
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05/27/2005 23:48
The Hammernot registered
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05/27/2005 23:48
The Hammernot registered
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Long Term Expectations from NA
Jerry,
Four years is great! I hope I can get that long before I face NA again. Your case is a good one to help us know long term expectations from NA. Short timers seem to have about six months or less. The rest of us might hope for four years like you.
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06/01/2005 23:17
AMPAD 70not registered
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06/01/2005 23:17
AMPAD 70not registered
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Long Term Expectations from NA
It has been nearly two years now. Some nodules are growing and some bands are reforming. I have some pain with the regrowth. The fingers on both my hands remain straight though.
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06/03/2005 23:25
Roxynot registered
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06/03/2005 23:25
Roxynot registered
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NA
Some cases seem to come back fast. Other cases seem to last a while. I think only CHS should do this. Only data from NA done by CHS should be used. The top CHs who does NA, Dr. Eaton, has not been at this long enough to have much data on long term expectations of NA. He will in a few years.
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06/03/2005 23:55
George Barbarownot registered
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06/03/2005 23:55
George Barbarownot registered
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Nineteen months later
Dr Eaaton did my NA on Nov 10, 2003
See post "miraculous change "
Hand is still fully functional and I have the beginnings of raised cords in the palm.
But if I find the hand is giving me trouble I will be back to Jupiter Florida and Dr. Eaton in a heartbeat.
A few minutes and no discomfort is a small price for the ability to shake hands, applaud etc.
See http://www.angelfire.com/rings/dupuytrens/
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06/05/2005 23:28
The Hammernot registered
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The Hammernot registered
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Long Term Expectations from NA procedure
Rev Rhum Ed Fr. 1993 Nov 30;60(11):808-13.
Non-surgical treatment of Dupuytren disease using needle fasciotomy
[Article in French]
Badois FJ, Lermusiaux JL, Masse C, Kuntz D.
Centre Viggo Petersen, Hopital Lariboisiere, Paris.
Short-term and five-year outcomes after nonsurgical treatment of Dupuytren's contracture by needle fasciotomy were studied. Among the 138 patients who were evaluated, 90 (123 hands) were seen five years after the procedure. Outcome was excellent or good in 81% of cases in the short term and 69% of cases after 5 years. Adverse events included skin breaks (20 hands, 16% of cases), digital dysesthesia due to nerve damage (3 patients, 2% of cases), and local infection (3 patients, 2% of cases). Five-year recurrence rate was 50.4%. These findings demonstrate the value of needle fasciotomy especially in the early stages of Dupuytren's disease.
So, after 5 years about half of the patients who had a needle fasciotomy were still good to go. A five-year recurrence rate of 50.4% is excellent. I am hoping for just three years. Five years is almost too much to hope for.
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06/05/2005 23:51
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Michaelnot registered
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Medical statistics
Yet the (undated) study quoted by DeskJet under the topic 'Nerve Damage with NA' says that there is contracture recurrence in 58% of patients 3.2 years after NA and disease activity in 69% of patients.
Oh the joy of medical statistics. Maybe the patient populations were different. - MML
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06/05/2005 23:13
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NA
From what I have seen 3.2 years sounds reasonable. Five years would be just fine with me though.
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06/05/2005 23:18
Anonnot registered
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Recurrence NA
In October we will reach the four year mark.
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06/05/2005 23:24
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Recurrence NA
It should noted that the recurrence rate for traditional surgery is also over 50%. One survey shows an overall complication rate of 19% for OS. See www.dupuytren-online.info/10701.html
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