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NA Finger~sq~s Memory
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05/24/2005 23:14
Hammer Head

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05/24/2005 23:14
Hammer Head

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NA Finger~sq~s Memory

My little finger is straight, due to Dr. Eaton's NA treatment last year. There are times when my finger seems to act as it did when DD had it bent. When I put my hand into my pants pocket my little finger seems to curl as it did when it was bent. The sensation is the same as a DC gives it. It is as if the finger is weak due to NA.

05/24/2005 23:03
Randy H.

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05/24/2005 23:03
Randy H.

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Less Flexibility

Hammer,

There is no question that once Dups has bent the PIP joint of a finger, it will *never* be the same. Although it may be straightened back to 100% with NA, it still doesn't have the flexibility of an unaffected finger. See how unaffected fingers can, with manual pressure from the other hand, be bent *backwards* quite a few degrees. No so with an NA corrected PIP. Less flexibility.

Now, in my experience, the NA treated finger can be straightened better than with OS because there is no scar tissue that, according to my surgeon, can't help but leave a bend of 15 degrees. So, what I'm saying is that my results are far better with NA than OS in terms of straightness. But still not back to perfect. That's gone for good I think.

What are other's experiences?

05/24/2005 23:11
Randy H.

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05/24/2005 23:11
Randy H.

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Additional

By the way, from this, an argument can be made that if you are going the NA route, have it done as early as possible (which is a reversal of a recommendation I made earlier. I caught some flack from Anon for that, and perhaps rightly so.) The down side is that, with a predicted higher rate of recurrence, you will then have NA more often. When you want to maintain short hair, you must cut it more often.

Again, what have others experienced?

05/25/2005 23:52
Sean 
05/25/2005 23:52
Sean 
PIP

Randy,
Again my surgery probably isn't the norm, but my PIP is straight (0 degrees contraction) with flexibility similar to time previous to Dupuytren's. So at least it is possible.

05/25/2005 23:53
Sean 
05/25/2005 23:53
Sean 
PIP

Randy,
Again my surgery probably isn't the norm, but my PIP is straight (0 degrees contraction) with flexibility similar to time previous to Dupuytren's. So at least it is possible.

05/25/2005 23:54
Sean 
05/25/2005 23:54
Sean 
Sorry

oops.

05/25/2005 23:26
Randy H.

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05/25/2005 23:26
Randy H.

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No Spar Zone?

Sean,

Again, congrats on your success. The normal scaring with PIP involvement was somehow absent in your case. Also you did a fantastic job of recovery. We have learned that we are on different extremes on our hand's biological reaction to invasive surgery. I would that *all* sufferers hand *your* reaction to the knife. Alternative treatment would not be such a big deal in that case.

For me, the truth has finally come out that I had a minor RSD reaction to surgery, which happens to about 5%. Everyone kept saying I was having a "normal" recovery......Not! Now on 2,400 mg of Neuronton daily, the flexibility increases and the pain decreases. With it's drawbacks, for me NA is the *only* way I can go. If I'd had your reaction to OS I would not be the stanch NA advocate I am. However, that shoe *is* on my foot, and I continue to be pleased with the ongoing positive NA testimonies. But Sean, I am also pleased to know how well you have done. For some, OS does seem to be the way to go. Unfortunately, we all have to give it a shot to know how we each will respond. I think you have won the OS lotto. I lost, big time.

Knowing that we are on opposite ends of the spectrum should help us respect each others admitted bias and the positions we take accordingly. That said, this will never become a "No Spar Zone". We are just too opinionated for that.

05/25/2005 23:12
Sean 
05/25/2005 23:12
Sean 
I agree

I have no problem whatsoever with someone choosing to have NA. I don't even think congratulations are due for me. It was just luck of the draw that my surgery went well. There can be many different reactions to any procedure, NA included.

05/25/2005 23:24
Randy H.

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05/25/2005 23:24
Randy H.

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Thoughts

Yes Sean, we all react differently *and* there is no way to predict in advance unless you have had the procedure before. That being said, I would propose that the depth, extent, and range of possible negative side effects and reactions is *directly* proportional to the *invasiveness* of the procedure. As an extreme of noninvasive, no one is the least bit concerned of issues arising from trimming one's fingernails with a good clipper. We go up from there.

05/25/2005 23:28
Michael

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05/25/2005 23:28
Michael

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Thoughts


Perhaps more thought should be devoted to treating Dup's before it proceeds to contracture - in fact, as soon as one becomes aware of it's existence. And that means chemical rather than surgical intervention.

For many Dup's patients, by the time contracture occurs, the (self-propogating) Dup's growth has spread so widely that really long-lasting relief is impossible. - MML

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