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self na procedure
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04/12/2006 23:39
lee 
04/12/2006 23:39
lee 
self na procedure

anybody do the na procedure themselves? I;ve heard of one. Lee

04/12/2006 23:54
Tommy

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04/12/2006 23:54
Tommy

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self NA

A few months ago a dentist said that he performed NA on the palmar region of his hand. He also said that he wouldn't attempt it on the fingers. He did give a disclaimer and advised others not to try it. He only posted once to my knowledge.

04/13/2006 23:27
Stage One

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04/13/2006 23:27
Stage One

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DIYs and the ADA

The reference is to Mike K's post in Feb 06 stating that he
used a 14 ga. needle on his palm; but, did not treat his
first phalange because of the known difficulties one might
encounter. No further comment here.

04/14/2006 23:10
Mike K

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04/14/2006 23:10
Mike K

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Do It Yourself NA

I only read this forum occasionally, and was suprised to see this topic near the top. I have performed NA on my hands with the help of my assistant 4 times using a 25 gauge needle....all of which were successful. It is not rocket science, and is basically a simple procedure provided you know what you are doing. As stated earlier, I have extensive surgical experience, and certainly would not have attempted these procedures otherwise. I have also studied the anatomy of the hand extensively and know the areas where I am comfortable operating. Unless you are a surgeon....do *NOT* attempt this yourself.

In answer to Randy H from my previous post, I found the french much more liberal in their use of steriods than Dr. Eaton. And as to a preference of whom to choose to operate on my hands, and with all due respect to the French, who, I feel did a wonderful job, there is no hesitation in who I would pick as the most qualified. Dr. Eaton....hands down (no pun intended). I saw him for a procedure again in May and discussed the french technique as relates to what he already knew as a hand surgeon. He stated that he had in excess of 3000 hours actually performing open hand surgery. And while he did not in any way put down the french practitioners, and was, in fact, quite complimentary of the technique they had developed, it was obvious that his knowledge of the hand and surgical skills far surpassed that of the french.

Additionally, should a problem arise, such as a severed nerve, Dr. Eaton would be in a position to repair it immediately....something the french practitioners could not do.

I will look in on this forum more often. Please ask questions if you have any. This is a critical topic. I feel we are on the cusp of something revolutionary in regards to treatment of DD. Much of the impetus has come from the posters of this forum.

Dr. Eaton makes his presentation in September. I feel after this presentation, the flood gates will open and NA could very well become the first line of care in the tratment of DD.

04/15/2006 23:21
Tommy

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04/15/2006 23:21
Tommy

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Paris vs Jupiter

Dr. Mike's point is well taken. As much as I wanted to stroll the Champs-Elysee and inhale second-hand smoke, I did consider the "what if" factor. Eaton is a certified hand surgeon so I choose Florida.

And yes, The Burt Reynolds Museum compares favorably with the Louvre.

04/17/2006 23:53
lee 
04/17/2006 23:53
lee 
self na procedure

I'm considering it, is the nerve right next to the bone? or is it bound up in the scar tissue? Any resource for pictures of nerves in the fingers? thanks

04/19/2006 23:46
Wolfgang

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04/19/2006 23:46
Wolfgang

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self NA

Lee, if you have this kínd of questions, don't even think of doing NA yourself!

Wolfgang

04/19/2006 23:21
lee 
04/19/2006 23:21
lee 
self na procedure

what could be more simple than putting a hyper-dermic needle 1/4 in. into some scar tissue? I"ve had 2 broken bones and a shoulder dislocation as an athlete, so pain is not an issue. Infection will be treated with cleanliness. Its worth a try for me. I can't afford the na procedure now anyways, I have no insurance.
I did have an experiance 2 years ago where the last joint on my ring finger went numb for 3 months from an injury. But the sensation is back so one could deduce that it takes so long for the nerve tissue to regenerate. Lee

04/19/2006 23:39
jim h

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04/19/2006 23:39
jim h

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Ahmed007

It isn't just 'scar tissue'. It's similar to scar tissue, but can be wrapped right around the nerves. I had conventional surgery by a skilled hand surgeon, who warned me ahead of time about the risk of nerve damage, and he managed to cut one.

By the time you bust up that Dupuytren's cord to the point where you could snap it, you could do serious damage. You'd think you were making progress and suddenly, bing!... a finger goes to sleep and never wakes up.

Forget about it.

04/19/2006 23:07
Larry 
04/19/2006 23:07
Larry 
Ahmed007

not to mention you can rupture your tendon. then you'd be in big trouble -- you HAVE to have surgery to fix that, and surgery can cause the Dupuytrens to flare even worse.

sooooooo..... surely you jest.

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