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Dupuytren's early symptoms
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03/28/2016 20:37
paul3935 
03/28/2016 20:37
paul3935 
Dupuytren's early symptoms

Hello Dupuytren's Society!

I have only one dermal pit which I am aware of though there may be more trouble areas I am not aware of. I also live in the United States. I have just seen a hand doctor who told me that here, no one treats Dupuytren's with radiation and that its use would be classified as malpractice. Since I am very young (27) and I only have the very early symptoms, and because I use my hands very often, I am interested in doing everything I can to treat this early. Do you have information on treatments I should pursue here in America, or whether I should quickly look abroad for radiation and other work?

Regards,

Paul

Edited 03/28/16 23:38

03/28/2016 20:56
Stefan_K. 
03/28/2016 20:56
Stefan_K. 

Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

paul3935:
Hello Dupuytren's Society!

I have only one dermal pit which I am aware of though there may be more trouble areas I am not aware of. I also live in the United States. I have just seen a hand doctor who told me that here, no one treats Dupuytren's with radiation and that its use would be classified as malpractice. Since I am very young (27) and I only have the very early symptoms, and because I use my hands very often, I am interested in doing everything I can to treat this early. Do you have information on treatments I should pursue here in America, or whether I should quickly look abroad for radiation and other work?

Regards,

Paul

Hello Paul, welcome to the forum.

I suggest you have a a look at the long list of clinics and doctors practicing radiotherapy for Duypuytren's Disease in the United States of America under the treatment tab of the menu (or direct link: http://www.dupuytren-online.info/radiotherapy_clinics.html), show it to your hand doctor and then never go see him again.

It is one thing to be ignorant of all treatment options, another to be so close minded and arrogant as to discount that which one doesn't know. Not someone I would trust with my health.

Stef

[54 year-old male, DD diagnosis 2006, RH contracture and NA/PNF 2014, RT 2015, wearing night splint glove]

03/28/2016 21:13
Nancy2016 
03/28/2016 21:13
Nancy2016 
Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

Hi Paul,

There is a list of clinics listed on this website that provide radiotherapy in the United States. Ackerman Clinic in Jacksonville, Fl is one example. Since I have been to this clinic, the staff has told me that many people fly in for radiotherapy. I do not think the medical community is knowledgeable (on a whole) on this particular disease, as they are in Germany, England, and France. You might find a hand surgeon telling you to wait and see....because you are a potential patient to have hand surgery down the road. I have found that this website has helped me immensely, as I had never ever heard of dupuytren, before my diagnosis.

03/28/2016 21:33
paul3935 
03/28/2016 21:33
paul3935 
Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

Thank you all for your help. I would not know any better if it were not for this wonderful community. I hope I am able to beat Dupuytren's early! I left a review for the dr I saw. I think it is horrible to advise a patient to wait for such a condition to get worse just to have a customer for surgery later. That is truly barbaric. I also think it is unacceptable not to be informed on the most effective options when his clinic claims to see the condition all the time!

03/29/2016 11:00
spanishbuddha 

Administrator

03/29/2016 11:00
spanishbuddha 

Administrator

Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

Hi Paul

Maybe also check out this thread which starts a discussion on when to have RT for DD.

http://www.dupuytren-online.info/Forum_E...-rt-0_2156.html

There are a lot of places now doing RT in the US. It seems that even if there is not a clinic near you, people are calling the oncology centre closest to them and making appointments, and in some cases enlightening the radiologists.

Best wishes
SB

03/29/2016 19:54
Cherrise 
03/29/2016 19:54
Cherrise 
Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

Paul in my experience in the US even DD SPECIISTS are not always aware of the technique for RT Therapy. They assume it's a dangerous level of radiation, not realizing it's not like X-ray exposure. it's very little exposure to shrink the nodes over several treatments. Special protective hand covers are made protecting the hand only leaving the nodes exposed for treatment for RT. The technique is usually done by oncologists/radiologists who have trained for DD treatment .

Have you tried contacting the oncologist/radiologists association in ur area. Even my DD specialist that did the Xiaflex injection did not recommended it, only because he was not familiar with the low radiation treatment used for treating the nodes. It's almost better to bring a print out of the RT process from this forum with you for the doc to review.

The Xiaflex was helpful, opened my fingers and my hand is now useful. After that it was recommended to let the hand rest and watch the nodules. Also received a cortizone shot in two nodes in Palm that had become larger which did shrink them. Unfortunately the first hand surgeon DD SPECIALIST did surgery and as a result my hand was worse, after two years, found a dr for Xiaflex injections after reading about it in the Internet and found this forum.

Two years later nodes have not gotten larger. Always protect ur Hands and fingers. If ur worried about the finger contracting wear a splint or FIXXGLOVE every night to keep the contraction in check. Now I am managing the disease on a daily basis. It's seems to have resolved itself for now. It really is better not to do surgery period. See all the info on treatments on his forum. Good Luck.

Peace & Heeling.

Edited 03/29/16 23:06

03/29/2016 21:15
vicmc 
03/29/2016 21:15
vicmc 
Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

I'M IN MISSOURI AND JUST FINISHED MY FIRST ROUND OF RADIATION. IT TOOK ALOT OF PHONE CALLS BUT FINALLY FOUND A RAD. ONC. THAT HAD ALREADY TREATED ANOTHER PATIENT, I FEEL LUCKY HE WAS LOCAL AND I DIDNT HAVE TO TRAVEL.GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

03/31/2016 02:52
Peacefulbird 
03/31/2016 02:52
Peacefulbird 
Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

I too am in early stages (N - left hand, N1 - right hand), and reading on the internet like a maniac (knowledge is power, right?). The orthopedic surgeon specializing in upper extremities who diagnosed DD in my right palm which as 3 nodules, did not mention RT, nor did he mention or check my left hand or feet. I am not surprised, as radiation Drs. and orthopedic surgeons have so little in common, including their work places. My plan is to send the good surgeon information about the progression and RT treatment of my hand(s), and to gently inform my general practitioner, who thought the lumps were ganglion cysts.

Now, for me the biggest problem with obtaining RT is insurance coverage. I'm on Medicare, with a Medicare Advantage HMO plan. So far, they refuse coverage for RT, even though my general practitioner has tried to refer me to two different radiation oncologists who are known practitioners for DD and authorized for other types of radiation treatments. Bummer.

The cost without insurance for 5 + 5 treatments on one hand, including the initial set-up is a staggering $25,000.

Good luck to all of us.

03/31/2016 03:52
Cherrise 
03/31/2016 03:52
Cherrise 
Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

Hi peaceful,

Good you are obtaining all the info on DD . Sometimes RT is not always the way to go. Check out all the patients with RT treatment on the other treatments forum. Also NA is helpful,to some. And in some cases it's better to leave the nodes alone and let the hand rest. Sometimes they become active from injury or pushing on the nodes opening a jar, opening a door, etc. Always protect the hands when doing any type of activity that could cause injury .

Insurance is a pain for many. Usually this disease doesn't show up until Medicare is in place. I hope that a DD specialist can help with options and costs for you when it time for any Proceedure. Some hospitals are non profit and then in some cases there are no charges from the dr or a small fee. In my case a cortizone injection helped with the pain and slowed down the progression of the nodgules in my hand. Also ultra sound massage has been a key in managing the nodes and cords in my hands.

Peace and heeling!

03/31/2016 06:22
Peacefulbird 
03/31/2016 06:22
Peacefulbird 
Re: Dupuytren's early symptoms

Hi Cherrise,

Thanks for your reply and for sharing your experiences. I had a steroid injection 3 weeks ago, which seemed to reduce the size of the nodules, or perhaps it reduced inflamation. It also reduced the pain. You are the first person I've read about who uses ultra sound massage to manage the nodes and cords. Do you do it yourself, or do you have it done by a physical therapist?

How long have you been dealing with DD?

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