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01/04/2008 19:48
Issleib 
01/04/2008 19:48
Issleib 
Ignorance

Well I was in to see a new doctor for something unrelated to my Dupuytren's but had dutifuly mentioned it in my health history. He said why haven't you had surgery. Do you want to wave like the Pope? I tried to explain that first I'm not a candidate yet since I don't have a contratcture and second that I'd been diagnosed early enough to have radiation and that it had been very effective. I quoted the German statistics He sneared at me and growed Germany as though I'd quoted literature from an illiterate jungle medicine man. I had this urge to explain to him that Europe really was civilized but felt it would be wasting my time. So instead I will appologise for all the members of my profession who are as inflexable and rude and assure you that we are not all like that. If you run across one who is just say goodby and try someone else.

ColleenC1W889

01/05/2008 01:11
jim_h 
01/05/2008 01:11
jim_h 
Re: Ignorance

I recall a similar reaction when I told a CHS about the NA procedure. I understand skepticism regarding treatments they haven't heard about, but - what is it with these guys ridiculing something because it's "European"? All of a sudden you feel like you're talking to some creationist from Kansas. Do they think Einstein was born on the East Coast?

01/05/2008 20:36
Issleib 
01/05/2008 20:36
Issleib 
Re: Ignorance

Well if they thought about it at all that's probably what they'd think. But even if they knew better he did his "work" in this country so that's all right. We had such an influx of the best and brightest to this country for quite a while after world war two that some of the afore said idiots forgot that some of the best and brightest stayed home and did excellent work. From a pediatricians view point both Rett's syndrome and Angelman syndrome were well discribed in Europe but treated as something that really didn't exist here for about 20 years. And this country didn't grasp Fetal Alcohol Syndrome untile Smith discribed 7 or 8 cases in Seattle while a French Physician had a series of over 400. ( OK the French didn't much believe him either)

Colleen

01/14/2008 08:17
wach 

Administrator

01/14/2008 08:17
wach 

Administrator

Re: Ignorance

A comment might apply that Simon Singh wrote in his book "Big Bang" (BTW a great read for anyone interested in cosmology):

"Older scientists, having invested so much time and effort in the old paradigm, are generally the last to accept the change, whereas younger scientists are generallly more adventurous and open-minded. The paradigm shift might therefore be completed only when the older generation has retired from scientific life, and the younger generation has become the new establishment. The old paradigm might have prevailed for centuries, so a transition period that lasts a couple of decades is still comperatively short." (Harper editition, NY, 2005, p 368).

Heavy advertizing can accerate that change but NA doesn't have any commercial engine. Forums and educated patients partially compensate for that.

Wolfgang

01/30/2008 20:02
jrc 
01/30/2008 20:02
jrc 
Re: Ignorance

I just had my first visit with a Hand Specialist in Brisbane Australia, where I was diagnosed with MD (female aged 47). The experience was not a positive one. An assumption that there will need to be surgery in the next five years if things move quickly towards a contracture. Absolute shock horror response when the word radium was mentioned. I actually brought along information on radium treatment from this site, but he would not even look at it. Response was 'that will cause cancer without a doubt'. Also no interest in NA either. I am not going to waste time on a second opinion as I believe most Australian specialists are of this view. I am still keen to pursue the radium treatment but obviously I am probably going to have to travel to Germany. It is certainly disappointing that there has been such opposition to new ideas in this country. He did advise however that he had been involved in an American trial for collagenase (not sure if correct spelling) with twenty of his patients, but no results as yet. It seems many of us have had this experience with specialists and it is certainly a bit disconcerting. Self education is clearly a positive step.

01/31/2008 06:44
wach 

Administrator

01/31/2008 06:44
wach 

Administrator

Re: Ignorance

Hi jrc, visiting Germany is not a bad option, specifically in spring, summer or fall, but if you don't want to travel that far you might go to Perth http://www.dupuytren-online.info/radiotherapy_clinics.html . Don't dispair, this disease is managable. For most patients surgery works out OK, though radiotherpay and NA are good first lines of defense.

Wolfgang

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... Also no interest in NA either. I am not going to waste time on a second opinion as I believe most Australian specialists are of this view. I am still keen to pursue the radium treatment but obviously I am probably going to have to travel to Germany. ...


02/18/2008 23:09
TrevB 
02/18/2008 23:09
TrevB 

Re: Ignorance

I first went to my doctor 3 years ago with what I thought was a cyst in my palm. He said it could be treated at any point and added that they use micro-surgery which made me feel a little happier. I went back about a year later because the lump was not going away. I was referred to a specialist who confirmed Dupuytren and said come back for surgery when you can't put your hand flat on the table. I am therefore watching nodules and cords grow and waiting until the use of my one good hand is becoming a problem.

Looking at things I think radiotherapy would be a good option although the effects do worry me. I am disabled, without a passport, and would find travelling abroad difficult. Once again, this seems to be another treatment very hard to find in the UK. I've e-mailed 3 addresses without any form of reply. Perhaps I will have to try make the very considerable effort to make a first ever trip abroad while radiotherapy is still an option?

Poole Hospital carries out this treatment - how does the strength of radiation in this compare with the strength used for treating Dupuytren?

Radiosynovectomy - What is Radiosynovectomy?

Radiosynovectomy is a procedure using a radioactive product (Yttrium-90) to treat inflamed knee joints, for example rheumatoid arthritis and inflammatory osteo-arthritis. Synovitis means inflammation of the lining of a joint cavity (synovium). Radiosynovectomy means injection of a Radiopharmaceutical called Yttrium-90 silicate into the synovial cavity. Are there any side effects or risks from this treatment?There is a risk of a temporary increase in synovitis following treatment. The radiopharmaceutical will not benefit other joints but some overall positive effect may be noticed if steroid is injected at the same time. The procedure can lead to local bleeding and bruising. Other side-effects are infection leading to fevers (sometimes very high) and Septic arthritis. These are the most important complications of any joint injection. The type of radioactivity used can cause a slight reddening of the skin, and as with all radioactive materials there is a very small risk of future cancer. Some X-ray contrast agents can react with the Yttrium, so if you have had an X-ray examination with contrast within 8 days of the planned treatment, you must tell us as soon as possible. Is radioactive Yttrium-90 dangerous?
The radioactivity will stay in the knee(s) if you are careful not to move the knee-joint(s), for 48 hours after the injection. The radioactivity will not cause any damage to other parts of your body, and the type of radioactivity will not irradiate any other person. Although the radiation dose from this treatment is quite high, a large Finnish study has shown that patients treated with Y-90 do not have a greater risk of getting cancer compared to patients who did not have any Y-90 treatment.



Edited at 21.02.08 13:51

02/19/2008 08:36
Judith_Proctor 
02/19/2008 08:36
Judith_Proctor 
Re: Ignorance

Quote:





Looking at things I think radiotherapy would be a good option although the effects do worry me. I am disabled, without a passport, and would find travelling abroad difficult. Once again, this seems to be another treatment very hard to find in the UK. I've e-mailed 2 addresses at Poole hospital without any form of reply



Obvious question - why didn't you write? I gave a postal address on this web site to contact Dr Goode at Poole Hospital. I did NOT give an email address. What does this tell you? That the best way to contact him is by letter, not email.

Dr. T. D. Goode (FRCP, FRCR)
Dorset Cancer Centre
Poole Hospital NHS Trust
Longfleet Rd
Poole BH15 2JB

Since I originally contacted him last year, he's been treating people from all over the UK.

02/19/2008 14:34
TrevB 
02/19/2008 14:34
TrevB 

Re: Ignorance

on the clinics page it says

Clinics in the UK:
Unfortunately we only have limited contact data, feedback regarding additional addresses is very welcome!

Dr. T. D. Goode (FRCP, FRCR)
Dorset Cancer Centre
Poole Hospital NHS Trust
Longfleet Rd
Poole BH15 2JB
01202 / 448647 (Dr Goodes secretary)

http://www.poole.nhs.uk/

e-mail is my preferred method of contact. Thanks anyway, I need to put pen to paper in that case Has the treatment had the desired effect for you?


Edited at 21.02.08 13:55

02/19/2008 16:55
wach 

Administrator

02/19/2008 16:55
wach 

Administrator

contacting Poole

I've added a comment re contacting Poole on our web site. Hope this helps future contacts. Probably nobody ever reads emails there.

Wolfgang

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