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Alcohol and Dupuytren's disease
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07/19/02 02:41
Gary Evans

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07/19/02 02:41
Gary Evans

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Drinking alchohol and Dupuytren

Mike,
What are you talking about when you say "lesions"? I would know what you were talking about if you said "nodules" or "dermal pits". Are you talking about either one or is this something different?
Gary

    08/10/02 02:51
    Leslie

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    08/10/02 02:51
    Leslie

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    Alcohol?? BS

    Nonsense. I've never been much of a drinker, and I have Dupuytrens on both hands, as well as its twin, Ledderhosen, on both feet (thank god I don't have a penis, or I'd have their brother, peyronies).

    These conditions run in my family, largely a group of teetotalers. And I don't recall anyone in my family having gout, either.

      08/10/02 02:37
      Gary Evans

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      08/10/02 02:37
      Gary Evans

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      Drinking Alchohol and Dupuytren

      Leslie,
      You don't have to be a drinker of alchohol to get Dupuytren's. Alchohol consumption can (according to most studies) enhance the chance of stimulating the growth if you are predisposed genetically to DC.
      Gary

        08/10/02 02:48
        JERRY 
        08/10/02 02:48
        JERRY 
        QUESTIONNAIRE

        PLEASE NOTE:

        I am conducting an unofficial survey in an attempt to gather information with regard to our Dupuytren's problem. Please utilize the following URL to visit the site of the Questionnaire:

        http://www.stcatz.org/dupuytren.htm

        Remember: A large amount of responders will provide us with the most clout.

        Thank you,

        JERRY KLAFTER

          08/21/02 02:07
          -c_H_U_N_k-

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          08/21/02 02:07
          -c_H_U_N_k-

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          Im 28 years old and i have DC.

          Tho I have been drinking the past year (vodka) at least 2-5 days per week.. I believe my DC was cause by my excessive use of my none ergonomic mouse... once i noticed signs of dc I noticed that i had to cusp my mouse with my palm causing tension. sadly i have a mouse in my hand up too 56 hours per week..
          My questions are? --> could this actually be the cause? or maybe a little of both?
          --> what are some of the different methods that you have used to help the problem, please include the pros and cons?

            09/29/05 02:32
            Wolfgang Wach

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            09/29/05 02:32
            Wolfgang Wach

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            Drinking

            For all those happy drinkers, here is a publication that I stumbled over just now (and which you possibly have seen before):

            K.G. Gudmundsson, R. Arngrimsson, T. Jonsson "Dupuytren's disease, alcohol consumption and alcoholism" Scand. J. Prim. Health Care 19/3 (2001) p 186-190.

            link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11697563&query_hl=15

            "RESULTS: Of the Dupuytren's group, 19 (13.9%) had been treated for alcoholism or were heavy drinkers compared to 8 (14.3%) of those without Dupuytren's disease (NS). Little or moderate alcohol consumption was reported in 78.1% of the Dupuytren's patients compared to 73.2% of the controls (NS). Total abstainers from alcohol were 11 (8.0%) in the Dupuytren's group compared to 7 (12.5%) in the control group (NS). CONCLUSION: Our findings do not support a positive association between the use of alcohol and Dupuytren's disease."

            But note: effects on liver, brain, belly etc. were not included in this research!

            Wolfgang
            PS: this was a Scandinavian study, of course (14 percent heavy drinkers ...).

              09/30/05 02:59
              Stage One

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              09/30/05 02:59
              Stage One

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              Ethanol Metabolism And DC

              This is conjecture on my part. The link (if any)
              between Alcoholism and Dupuytren's might not be
              related to liver metabolism of alcohol, but to
              a comorbidity or covariance. Like horses and
              carriages, they may not cause one another; they are
              often found together. If one inherits the "Viking
              Curse," perhaps the gene or genes are closely
              associated. Getting one or both may establish
              a biologic predisposition; it may not condemn one
              to either or both manifestation(s.) Likewise with
              other associated conditions/medications mentioned in
              literature. Abstaining from alcohol might prevent
              alcoholism, but not DD/DC. Again this is just food
              for thought; I have no bias toward any particular
              explanation. I do advocate moderate alcohol use and
              avoidance of hand trauma. I define moderate as 4-10
              ounces of wine or its equivalance in beer/ale/liquor
              on a daily or less frequency. My nodules and chords
              appeared after really forcing screws into a hard surface
              with a knurled screwdriver. I probably had DD already;
              but it was then that I started getting DC over the next
              few years. I am 3/4 Irish and 1/4 Scot.

                09/30/05 02:03
                Randy H.

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                09/30/05 02:03
                Randy H.

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                Stat 101

                As anyone who's had Stat 101 knows: "Correlation does not prove Causation". The genetic precursors for alcohol abuse is an accepted fact. The same is true for Dups. The idea that there may be a correlation *genetically*, as opposed to behaviorally is some original thinking Stage, and it does make sense to me. Though I may be biased due to my taste of CA Red Zin, I have yet to see definitive proof that moderate consumption is contraindicated for Dups.

                  10/03/05 02:30
                  Nigel 
                  10/03/05 02:30
                  Nigel 
                  Web Link

                  Hi Jerry

                  I pasted the following link into my browser but got "Server Not Found 404"

                  http://www.stcatz.org/dupuytren.htm

                  Nigel

                    11/08/05 01:58
                    Oriol

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                    11/08/05 01:58
                    Oriol

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                    Danish study

                    Hi.

                    I found this article in the Danish State Health Institute, wich correlates the amount of alcohol (and tobacco) ingestion with the occurrence of Dupuytren's contraction.

                    Studying the hands of 7.200 people from an area of Copenhaguen, it basically shows that those who drink more doses of alcohol per week have a higher incidence of DC.

                    It is in Danish, sorry, but here's the link in case anyone wants to give it a try:

                    http://www.si-folkesundhed.dk/Aktuelt/Ugens%20tal/Alkohol,%20tobak%20og%20springfinger.aspx

                    Oriol

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