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03/13/05 01:02
maglyn

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03/13/05 01:02
maglyn

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frozen shoulders

Yes, both shoulders have frozen badly in the past and now I suffer from Dupuytrens in both hands and my feet! I'm sure it must be connected.

03/13/05 01:35
Andrew 
03/13/05 01:35
Andrew 
Frozen shoulder and Dupuytren~sq~s

Dr Eaton's "Dupuytren's FAQs and facts" page has links to two studies which show a link between frozen shoulder and Dupuytren's. In one of these studies, carried out at a hospital in Exeter, England, out of 58 patients with frozen shoulder, more than half had Dupuytren's too.

In my case, the frozen shoulder appeared at a stressful time when my mother was dying. Four visits to a chiropractor had no effect on my shoulder except to make it worse. But surprisingly, a visit to a spiritual healer had a remarkable effect - not the first couple of times, it is true, but the third time when I was seen by an experienced healer.

12/30/05 01:28
Robert Pullman

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12/30/05 01:28
Robert Pullman

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Dupuytrens, frozen shoulder, and other stuff

I don't understand what is going on. Up til last year I had never had health or injury problems, although I have been exercising regularly since the 70's. I would appreciate any insight and recommendations.

I don't know how long I have had Dupuytrens. Someone else noticed it in Jan '05, and my doctor diagnosed it in March. It is just in my right hand and does not bother me at all. The orthopedist told me to soak it and stretch it.

In Sep '05 I began to have pain and stiffness in my shoulders and thighs. The shoulder bit seems to be frozen shoulder. The pain went away by November (massage helped) but range of motion remains a problem, with better and worse days. The right shoulder is much worse than the left.

My hamstrings are stiff and sore in the morning, and some days the soreness comes and goes all day. Bending over to place dishes on the floor for my cats is testy. Usually it gets better during the day. Both legs are about the same.

Actually the right hamstring has been a problem since Spring. I first noticed it when jogging back in March. My right leg took a mile or so to loosen up much and my legs generally felt sluggish and heavy. I had been running for 15 years and never had problems of that sort.


01/13/06 01:16
Hank

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01/13/06 01:16
Hank

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No Doctor, but.....

I'm a 55 year old male and have Dupuytren’s in the little finger of my left hand. It developed about 3 – 5 years ago. In September 2005, I started with my second frozen shoulder (left one this time). I had a right frozen shoulder about 10 years ago. My experience is that rigorous physical therapy does restore range of motion. It can be challenging due to the discomfort (pain) when it's being manipulated but it works.

Hamstrings: I have an extremely tight right hamstring now (cannot claim a correlation with Dupuytren's or frozen shoulder) but attribute it to reduced time doing yoga. My physical therapist for my shoulder tells me that I just need to stretch the hamstring typically after exercising.

01/13/06 01:57
Randy H.

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01/13/06 01:57
Randy H.

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No Doctor, but.....

Robert,

It sounds like there may be two things gong on with you. If your have a mild case of Frozen Shoulder, you have scar tissue building up inside the shoulder *socket*, not in the mussel surrounding it. Massage would not help FS. With FS, it becomes increasing difficult to lift you arm over your head. FS is related to Dupuytren's, and since you have Stage I Dups, this degenerative disease may be effecting you in two arias.

The hamstring issue seems unrelated, as we don't see Dupuytren's posters with that complaint. All the Dupuytren's type diseases have to do with scar tissue growing in the wrong places. It's a connective tissue disorder. However, perhaps someone else on this site might relate and suggest that we have found yet another manifestation of this whack disease: Scar tissue in the Hamstring?

On the other hand, Dups is *age* related. It likes people in their 50's. I had to quit running on hard cement or dirt because of my hip. Now I do a mile in the pool instead. The hip is fine how. Hate to say it, it but Age catches up with us all. 12 years on hard surface might be the problem, and your body is just not interested in any more of the same. Some people can jog into their 70's. Some just can't. (If you're 35, you can probably just ignore this paragraph)

Anyone else have thoughts for Robert?

01/14/06 01:31
Steve

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01/14/06 01:31
Steve

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Dupuytren-like problems

Well, I have been diagnosed with Dupuytren's, but am remaining a bit sceptical of that diagnosis. I do also have problems such as those that have been related here with my feet, and my shoulders (but not 'frozen shoulder.'

Anyway - the Dupuytren part:
The 'pinky' finger of my left hand is bent about 45-50 degrees at the PIP. The finger is not bent at all at the knuckle joint. There is a lump on that finger in-between those two joints. A plastic/hand surgeon I saw did not think the lump was related to the DC.

I can detect no pronounced 'bands' of thickend fascia in my palms. The surgeon I consulted suggested I have the surgery sooner rather than later, and that I was not a candidate for (NA or) percutaneous fasciotomy, or whatever he called it.

I had seen another hand surgeon, and had actually scheduled surgery (he would have cut my hand in a zig-zag pattern from the 'heel' of the hand up into the pinky finger, and removed the palmar facsia. That surgury was cancelled due to other events on my part.

A question I have is how can a contraction in the Palmar Fascia (SP?) bend my finger at the PIP without bending it at the knuckle?

Also, I read somewhere (online, I think) that the fascia in a person with DC is chemically different than normal. If that is the case shouldn't there be a test to see if DC is actually present?

Regarding my feet: I have lumps on the arches of both feet. When I saw a podiatrist about it, he believed it was caused by scarring after tears in the ligaments (or tendons?) He said it could be addressed surgically, but didn't recommend that. He suggested arch supports. I now wonder if it is something related to DC.

I also have pain in my shoulders, and obvious limited mobility in one shoulder, but I can lift both arms over my head with no problem. If I try to touch my fingertips behind my back by reaching over one shoulder, and up behind my back with the other hand, I can do it on one side, but not the other.

I know I have mentioned a number of problems here. This was prompted by the current discussion. I welcome any knowledgable insight from the reader/posters of this list.

Thank you,
Steve

PS I am also questioning the wisdom of continuing my alchohol consumption, and use of Glucosamine.

01/21/06 01:15
Don 
01/21/06 01:15
Don 
NA

I've been to Dr. Eaton and Dr. Denkler for the NA procedure (four years apart). I've also had frozen shoulder several times. Yes, they're related.

01/21/06 01:59
jey

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01/21/06 01:59
jey

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NA

Don:

01/21/06 01:59
jey

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01/21/06 01:59
jey

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NA

Don:

01/22/06 01:01
jey

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01/22/06 01:01
jey

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NA

Don: sorry about first two posts. Anyway, were you equally satisfied with both surgeons for NA? Thanks, Jey..

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