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had the needle, now have had open hand surgery
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04/06/2008 17:51
52chev 
04/06/2008 17:51
52chev 
had the needle, now have had open hand surgery

By Nov '06 my left ring finger was drawn down 45 deg. almost all due to the PIP joint. A doc in Ore, Kline I think it was, did NA and got it almost straight.
Unfortunately, in about a year, it had drawn down as far as before.
I resisted the idea of open hand surgery for months, contacting a NA doc in San Francisco who told me NA dosent work too well on the PIP joint. I even contacted the people doing collegenase trials, asking to be included. They said they put me on the list but never called me.
I finally had open hand surgery Mar 26,'08. There is a bandage from the tips of my ring and little fingers past my wrist.
Stitches come out 4/11/08 and Physical theripy will start. It dosent hurt. Typing one handed is a pain in the butt.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Curt

04/16/2008 22:31
key 
04/16/2008 22:31
key 
Re: had the needle, now have had open hand surgery

Curious to know how your hand is doing?

I had 2 surgerys 10 & 6 yrs ago on my Pinkie and then have had NA twice. Great results but it just comes back to fast, so I am now looking at surgery again.

Best

05/01/2008 16:41
callie 
05/01/2008 16:41
callie 
Re: had the needle, now have had open hand surgery

I had surgery six years ago. The fingers are still in excellent condition. No hint of contraction. Cannot tell any difference from other normal hand.

05/27/2008 10:10
Pauli 
05/27/2008 10:10
Pauli 
Re: had the needle, now have had open hand surgery

Hi Guys, A Newbie here.
I have just been told I have this disease! Ring and middle finger on my right hand. It is not too serious at moment but is starting to bother me. i have been refered to a surgeon but my question is - AT what stage of this disease should i have surgery? If I wait will it be worse? I still have full movement and have heaps of manual work still to do on my house, so would prefer to hold off surgery for now, but am worried this may "aggravate". Any answers or not medical treatments to ease the uncomfort greatly appreciated.

05/27/2008 17:05
key 
05/27/2008 17:05
key 
Re: had the needle, now have had open hand surgery

I will preface this with, this is my $0.02 and do suggest you do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Depending on how advanced your case is then that may very well drive you to the best remedy. I would NOT do surgery as a first course of action, trust me, I did that one twice. I would look at NA, its all over this site, and a great alternative to surgery. If your case is not that advanced you may be able to wait for the enzyme that is coming out, thats probably 2009-2010 time frame.

Surgery should be your last option as NA may be the best way to go, very easy recovery (days) and can be done again and again. Also check out Dr. Eatons web site, the hand center or Dr. Keith Denkler, both have lots of great info about options and approaches. This site is also a great resource and you should get lots of feedback.

cheers!

05/27/2008 22:32
Randy_H 
05/27/2008 22:32
Randy_H 

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Pauli,

Typically traditional Open Surgery is not performed until there is a 45 degree contraction of the joint. Essentially, surgeons wait until the deformity begins to make the hand measurably less useful. Statistically however, the longer you wait with a PIP contraction the less effective the results. This is true with *both* NA and OS. The delight of NA is that a correction can be done with as little as 20 degree or so.

Again, statistically both NA and OS are prone to recurrence. There is no "cure". NA recurrence is higher than with OS, so it's wise to look at NA as the "entry level" procedure to be tried before moving to the more invasive approach. While many people do have excellent results from OS, the same is true for NA....sooner, faster, far less pain and for less money.

Do your homework and be armed with this: Despite the recent presentation of Eaton's work on NA to the American Society of Surgery of the Hand, NA is still a long way from being accepted in the US and elsewhere. Your surgeon will most likely be against NA. Nevertheless, the world is still round, we actually did land on the Moon, and NA is both safe and effective in spite of it's uninformed detractors.

Kick the tires and do your reading.

05/28/2008 05:53
Pauli 
05/28/2008 05:53
Pauli 
Re: had the needle, now have had open hand surgery

Hi Guys
Firstly thank you all so much for the quick, prompt and helpful replies.
To clarify things I am actually living in France at present and so I am interested to see what the hand doctor here (in Perigueux, Dordogne) recommends. Things may have changed and I will keep you all posted on what is discussed at the meeting.
Like i said I still have full mobility but am experiencing more discomfort and a "tightening" just of late. I can still bend my fingers backwards and feel a "stretching" inside, afterwards a bit of pain tho. i have lots (2 lumps)of "puckering" on my palm, which is what got me worried - firstly thinking they were callouses!
Will keep you abreast of latest developments in France. I am always interested in alternative treatments.
Again thanks Pauli.

06/02/2008 10:20
gordy

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06/02/2008 10:20
gordy

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Re: had the needle, now have had open hand surgery

Hi, im male, 46, have had dupryten's since I was 25, have had 4 sergery's in each hand since the onset. I am pretty sure that NA is not an option for me, but I do have a question about it, can you feel the slices that are made after the proceedure is done?

Gordy

06/02/2008 18:03
52chev 
06/02/2008 18:03
52chev 
Re: had the needle, now have had open hand surgery

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Curious to know how your hand is doing?

I had 2 surgerys 10 & 6 yrs ago on my Pinkie and then have had NA twice. Great results but it just comes back to fast, so I am now looking at surgery again.

Best


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