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Hammer Toes and DD
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08/02/2013 18:32
Vikingorigins 
08/02/2013 18:32
Vikingorigins 

Hammer Toes and DD

I know that there are many reasons for hammer toes, small shoes being one of them. But still, I find some troubling resemblances and I am starting to wonder if there is a relation between hammer toe and DD.

First thing is the same important itching that scratching cannot soothe. I have that in hands and feet when they are active. And now I have it in the toes… just after I had RT on both feet in the past months.

If you look at a picture of a DD contracture at the PIP joint, with hyper extension of the MCP joint, it is pretty similar to what a hammer toe looks like.

DD seems to be a systemic disease. Maybe that when RT blocks successfully the process in one active part, I wonder if it channels the disease elsewhere. After RT in the hand, the feet and knuckles became very active. Now that I have had RT in the feet, I develop hammer toes for no reasons. And I haven’t changed shoe size in the last months.

08/04/2013 04:37
wach 

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08/04/2013 04:37
wach 

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Re: Hammer Toes and DD

To my knowledge both diseases hammer toes and DD are not related. Of course, the itching when tissue is changed and new tissue grows might create a similar feeling. As you know DD, or rather LD, can create a bent toe and you might consider that as hammer toe as well. So far RT has not been reported to create bent toes. That might be a coincidence.

Wolfgang

08/04/2013 14:24
Vikingorigins 
08/04/2013 14:24
Vikingorigins 

Re: Hammer Toes and DD

Thanks Wolgang, for the info. I did not know that LD could create bent toe. I suppose that is what is happenning. I did not want to relate hammer toe to rt, but rather to the disease. I am very happy with the RT so far on treated areas. I still hope to stop untreated areas to emerge or increase.

08/06/2013 00:42
moondanc 
08/06/2013 00:42
moondanc 
Re: Hammer Toes and DD

wach:
To my knowledge both diseases hammer toes and DD are not related. Of course, the itching when tissue is changed and new tissue grows might create a similar feeling. As you know DD, or rather LD, can create a bent toe and you might consider that as hammer toe as well. So far RT has not been reported to create bent toes. That might be a coincidence.

Wolfgang

I don't really want to start down the road of LD investigation so I'll start small because right now I can't bear to start considering I might also have LD and start reading up on it. Are the symptoms-- nodes in the soles of the foot, cords, etc. basically the same as for DD or could one just develop something that looks like a hammer toe w/o any nodules and have LD?

Diane

08/09/2013 10:17
wach 

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08/09/2013 10:17
wach 

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Re: Hammer Toes and DD

Diane, typical for LD are initally small nodules in the sole of the foot, mostly in the vicinity of tendons. That's pretty similar to Dupuytren's. Eventually these nodules might grow and they might get bigger than with Dupuytren's but exhibiting less cords. You can find a few pictures on http://www.dupuytren-online.info/ledderhose_disease.html and http://www.dupuytren-online.info/radiation_therapy.html.

Ty my opinion a hammer toe without nodules or cords likely has some other reason than LD but only a doctor can diagnose that.

Wolfgang

Edited 11/26/2023 08:21

08/09/2013 17:43
moondanc 
08/09/2013 17:43
moondanc 
Re: Hammer Toes and DD

wach:
Diane, typical for LD are initally small nodules in the sole of the foot, mostly in the vicinity of tendons. That's pretty similar to Dupuytren's. Eventually these nodules might grow and they might get bigger than with Dupuytren's but exhibiting less cords. You can find a few pictures on http://www.dupuytren-online.info/ledderhose_disease.html and http://www.dupuytren-online.info/radiation_therapy.html.

Ty my opinion a hammer toe without nodules or cords likely has some other reason than LD but only a doctor can diagnose that.

Wolfgang
Thanks, that's basically what I thought. Thank goodness-- or badness!--I will be seeing Dr. Pess soon and we will add a foot exam two my two NA hand procedures.

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