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suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?
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09/06/2011 11:53
marla1955 
09/06/2011 11:53
marla1955 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

Hi,
We live in the Albany region and my husband has had two Xiaflex injections at Schenectady Regional Orthopedics with Dr. James Smith. We have CDPHP as well and we filed for a review with CDPHP twice and were rejected twice. Short of filing a complaint with the Federal Government against my husbands employer we got no where with CDPHP until my husband spoke to his HR person at work. Not sure who your employer is John but if you have a HR department go to them! Because my husband's employer has a branch of the company in Ohio which is covered by Anthem insurance and Anthem insurance covers Xiaflex injections in Ohio,his HR person got approval for his treatment with Xiaflex here in NY. So CDPHP was told to cover the cost and the employer picked up the cost, we have paid copays only.
Don't give up, Xiaflex has helped my husband immensely. If you can switch to MVP then that is the faster route to get the Xiaflex injections. My husband's employer does not offer MVP to their employees. The saddest part is CDPHP is not moving forward with newer treatments. My husband has his left pinkie and ring finger involved. The pinkie was very contracted and the ring finger to a lesser degree. He has had two injections so far and plans for a third. He is receiving occupational therapy with splinting and bracing and finger exercises. He can almost straighten his pinkie now. He needs one more injection in a cord that is affecting both of those fingers. He started this in April of this year and has been able to work full time, not be out on disability for surgery, healing from surgery and possible complications of an open wound.
Contact Xiaflex themselves at theire 800 number they have been most supportive in making suggestions about how to file a review etc. We even explored having the Xiaflex drug sold at a reduced cost but you have to file paperwork re: your income. We did not qualify. Don't give up!!!

Edited 09/06/11 14:57

09/14/2011 20:51
marigail 
09/14/2011 20:51
marigail 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

I am in the Albany area and have had two xylaflex shots with Dr. Richard Uhl who is in the same group as Dr. Quinn who was mentioned earlier. Dr. Uhl is the only capitol district doctor doing the shots. He also has the rating in the area as the top ortho for hands. If nothing else, a visit to him might help clarify things.
Marigail

11/03/2011 02:00
KimClue 
11/03/2011 02:00
KimClue 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

I was just diagnosed with DC last week by Dr. Zanaros at the Bone and Joint Center in Albany. He only just started doing injections for those with contracture a couple of months ago, waiting for news of side effects for the first six months before giving it a go. I'm not a candidate. I have nodules only.

What bothers me is that he seems to think something else is causing my pain, not the DC, and he's sending me to a Rheumatologist after my blood test came back negative for RA or Lupus and x-rays come back showing no arthritis in my sore swollen knuckles. He mentioned cortisone injections but nothing about radiation or NA. He basically said I have to live with it until my fingers curl and the injection can work. Nodules go untreated.

I found this forum because I wasn't willing to accept that. I'm so grateful to learn from those who have shared here. I see now that NYU may offer radiotherapy. I'm either going to educate Dr. Zanaros about what I want or, if he's not willing to go that rout, find another doctor. From everything I've read, I'm at the perfect stage for radiotherapy and time's a-wasting. It's on a rapid advance in both hands.

If anybody finds a willing radiotherapy doctor in Albany, please do fill me in! If I find one first, I'm happy to share.

11/03/2011 13:07
marigail 
11/03/2011 13:07
marigail 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

Hi Kim!!

I also use the Bone and Joint Center in Albany. My doctor is Dr. Uhl. If you check into his credentials, you will learn that he is the primary "hand man" in the Capitol district. I like him very much. He's quite laid back, but very well versed in this. It may be worth your while to have a consult with him. I had to wait for quite awhile to be considered for the injections (I've had two) because they had not been approved as yet, and because my finger wasn't initially contracted enough to warrant the treatment. The cord causing the nodules has to be prominent enough to be given the injection. He also does not feel that the radiotherapy is a viable treatment. Like you, I have DC in both hands. In the hand it turned up in first, there has been little change over the past 12 years, but the pinky on the second hand went pretty quickly. With the two injections (and yes, I had and still have discomfort) I have achieved about 50% improvement. That is going to have to be it for now, although my options on this finger now do not include another injection, nor would I do that. Radiotherapy also wasn't one of the options.

My hands are pretty much functional---even the pinky on the affected hand--but to look at my hands I look like a 90 year old woman (I'm not).

I do wish you success---and hope you'll keep us posted of your progress. As a lay person only, I think I'd try the rheumatologist if the doctor felt that your pain is caused by something other than the DC. if If you want to chat further, let me know and we can do so outside of this forum. I live in Columbia County.
Marilyn

11/03/2011 13:32
KimClue 
11/03/2011 13:32
KimClue 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

Hi Marilyn (or should I say neighbor),

I'm near the Rensselaer/Columbia county border. I'm certainly happy to keep in contact and share information! Thank you for the recommendation.

What I'd really love to know is why Dr. Uhl doesn't consider RT a viable option? From what I understand, it's only viable during N stage, which is where I'm at. Were you not a candidate because your DC was too advanced, or because he knows of issues with the treatment. I'd like to know the pitfalls of trying because, as far as I can tell, the window for RT therapy is narrow. I feel like I'm in a race to find answers and, if possible, treatment that can stave off progression before it's too late and I'm left facing procedures that essentially scare the hell out of me.

I'm still waiting for an appointment with an RA specialist, to be set up by Dr. Zanaros's assisitant (hopefully today). Dr. Z says I can have RA and not test positive. I'll try any option to stop the ache and burning. The increased pain is maddening. As a writer, photographer, videographer, editor and web designer, this is hugely impinging on my daily activities, not to mention my sleep.

Be well and I'm so glad you found somebody you trust.
Kim

11/03/2011 14:20
marla1955 
11/03/2011 14:20
marla1955 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

Hi,
I guess I am confused is Dr. Uhl an orthopedic hand surgeon? If not I urge you to get a second opinion. I have been on the Xiaflex website and there is a orthopedic hand surgeon at Albany Orthopedic group who can inject Xiaflex. Liking the Dr. is fine but if you are concerned about your treatment options, a second opinion may be a good thingt to do. We did after the first hand surgeon we saw only considered traditional hand surgery and added the statement that we would have to sign a waiver that if he could not reestablish blood flow or damaged a tendon amputation would be necessary. My husband has a pinky and ring finger of his dominant left hand affected. He already lost the tip of his right pointer finger as a child. The thought of him potentially having two fingers amputated at his age just scared us to seek a second opinion. I did the research and phone calls for him, he was ready to give in and just live with it until they did need amputation. He had his third injection in his left palm yesterday around the cords. He will be manipulated this afternoon. After that we may be going to an OT at a rehab facility to have a brace built to stretch his two fingers out and keep them from contracting. OT in addition to the Xiaflex has helped him the most. Don't give up and don't give in. Good luck!!!

11/03/2011 15:38
marigail 
11/03/2011 15:38
marigail 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

Hi Kim!!

We REALLY are neighbors. I live right near the Rensselaer/Columbia line in Columbia County. I taught at Maple Hill for a gazillion years, as well.

Dr. Uhl did not feel that the radiation treatment met with much success. Whether he was basing that on the fact that the finger was quite advanced, I'm not sure, but seeing as though I'm still at the nodule stage on the one hand, I interpreted his answer to mean that he just didn't think it was a viable alternative. I could be reading into that, though. Every patient is different.

I certainly can understand your concern, and I hope that you can find some answers to your situation that is workable for you!!
Marilyn

11/03/2011 15:49
marigail 
11/03/2011 15:49
marigail 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

Yes, Dr. Uhl is an orthopedic hand surgeon. When I had my injections he was the first in this area to be giving the injections. We both feel that my treatment has been successful, yet he did explain the risks in having the injections, which did include the possibility of nerve damage. I have Blue Shield PPO for insurance and had no trouble getting the xylaflex injections covered, which is a good thing, because I would not have been able to have the injections without coverage.

Maria, I'm delighted that your husband has had success. My pinky was completely contracted---folded right into the palm. With the first injection, it released a little bit to expose a second tendon that needed to be treated. The second shot released that, and I'm a little more than half released. If anything is impinging me now it is scar tissue. Another injection in this finger is not recommended. According to Dr. Uhl the least success is in a pinky. (Figures, right?) The ring finger on my opposite hand could have an injection, but that really hasn't changed in many years, so I'm not willing to do that right now.

12/02/2011 13:48
KimClue 
12/02/2011 13:48
KimClue 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

Hi Marigail,

I just wanted to follow up with how it all worked out.

I called Dr. Weiss in Richmond, VA about RT therapy and was guided through the process with such wonderful care. When I dialed reception on a Friday morning, I was able to speak with Dr. Weiss directly and we agreed a visit was worthwhile. By that afternoon, Odell at reception made me an appointment for Monday, a week's accommodations at the Hospital's Hospitality house for a $15 donation per night (in walking distance from VCU's state-of-the-art facilities and downtown), and called my insurance company (MVP) to ensure procedures were covered. I bought my airfare and flew out two days later.

When I landed in Richmond, I took a 15 minute cab ride directly to see Dr. Weiss. My full history was recorded, my hands and feet examined, a cat scan determined the depth required for treatment, and two metal plates were designed to outline the treatment area, one for each hand. By that afternoon, I had my first RT session on both hands and it lasted about a minute. The staff in every department was impeccably professional, courteous and downright kind. From then on, I simply showed up at 8:30 a.m. and got a quick zap each day for the rest of the week. Otherwise, my time was my own and Nurse Betty had the staff create a list of fun things to do in the area - all within walking distance.

I'm now three weeks out and notice that the pain has reduced greatly. The nodules on both hands seem somewhat smaller too, if only a bit. I've read from others here that the differences become more significant during the second week of treatment, which is scheduled for mid January. I look forward to the return visit and increased results. Some have said that they felt a mild sunburn, which I did too two days after treatment ended. It lasted only about 3 days and was so mild, I barely noticed but for running hot water over my hands. I'll keep you posted on round two.

BY COMPARISON

It's hard to believe that all the RT arrangements transpired and were complete within a week out of state. By comparison, the Bone and Join Center took 4 weeks to get me in to another doctor at the Center for Reuhmatology (same building) for inflammation issues. Why does the Bone and Joint Center only self refer at the expense of patients in sleep depriving pain?

I am turned off to the Bone and Joint Center entirely at this point. Aside from offering no hope where some clearly exists, I have never seen such a trail of bureaucratic mismanagement at every single turn.

- I left a message for Dr. Zanaros asking his opinion about RT therapy. His nurse delivered an answer referring to RT for rheumatoid arthritis - to which Dr. Zanaros' response was "absolutely not." Since he didn't call me himself, I wasn't able to clarify the question.

- Then, unbeknownst to me until the reminder call came, I was scheduled for a follow-up appointment. I hemmed and hawed, then went anyway thinking Dr. Zanaros had new information to share with me. Nope. Neither one of us knew why I was there. He shook my hand, thanked me for the education about my first round of RT therapy and the front desk charged me for my newly researched and shared expertise. They insisted that I made the appointment. I did not. This became a fight, which I lost [read: gave up]. I had taken the doctor's time - which was chargeable.

- Later, when I clearly requested in writing that my records be transferred to the rheumatologist of my choice rather than who they referred me to, instead, hard copies were sent to my house along with a bill. I had had it. My lawyer, as a favor to me, sent a letter requesting a refund and the proper delivery. On a copy of my original request, the address to deliver to was clearly circled for clarification. Their error ultimately delayed my ability to make my own appointment outside the Bone and Joint Center network by another two weeks.

Ironically, the last time I was in that building, a flyer was taped to the elevator saying that they were working on improving customer service... Fail. I'd suggest they work harder.

Edited 02/24/12 17:34

12/02/2011 17:41
marigail 
12/02/2011 17:41
marigail 
Re: suggestions Albany NY / NE US area (NA, etc) ?

Wow, Kim!!! that is SOME story!! I am so delighted to learn that you are pleased thus far with the outcome of the treatment, and I look forward to hearing more....As you know RT isn't even considered in Albany. Perhaps at some point, since we live close to one another, we could meet, and compare hands......This may be a treatment I should be considering. I'm not going to have another shot, and I have to say the achiness is getting worse. It could be the weather, but who knows.......

I'm very dismayed at the Bone and Joint Center. I've been using them since 1988---when they were still relatively small, and have been pretty happy with them until the Dupuytren's. Since no one else did anything with Dupuytren's other than this group, I felt I didn't have much of a choice but to wait for the shot......Maybe I need to think in other ways. My doctor feels the next step for me is surgery---I REALLY don't want to do that.

I will be away from this coming Tuesday until the 22nd, but I really would love to know how it goes over the next several weeks leading up to the next appointment. Thanks for keeping in touch,
Marilyn

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